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Nichols. who do you think is the worst president ever? >> actually whoever becomes president, chris, thinking they're going to end up behind millard fillmore. i come into this with a perspective of former long haired hippy vietnam era war protester. and i think what matters the most to our country is when a president comes in and executes geopolitics that have this sort of global impact but also ruin things for all of us at home, and i think what happened under george w. bush is that they cooked intelligence, they created a case for a war to invade iraq, to get even for his dad. and as the for...

President ever? >> actually whoever becomes president, chris, thinking they're going to end up behind millard fillmore. i come into this with a perspective of former long haired hippy vietnam era war protester. and i think what matters the most to our country is when a president comes in and executes geopolitics that have this sort of global impact but also ruin things for all of us at home, and i think what happened under george w. bush is that they cooked intelligence, they created a case for a war to invade iraq, to get even for his dad. and as the former secretary of defense, donald rumsfe...

>> actually whoever becomes president, chris, thinking they're going to end up behind millard fillmore. i come into this with a perspective of former long haired hippy vietnam era war protester. and i think what matters the most to our country is when a president comes in and executes geopolitics that have this sort of global impact but also ruin things for all of us at home, and i think what happened under george w. bush is that they cooked intelligence, they created a case for a war to invade iraq, to get even for his dad. and as the former secretary of defense, donald rumsfeld said, we had ...