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Than harmful. yes, you could bring us more republican voters. >> what's interesting to me is that in both of those states, in arizona and nevada, republican voters in those states say that immigration is their top issue. and the president has made that his topic through the ad that explicitly shows that. why do they think his message won't work there? >> donald trump is always about the space, but there are voters that don't like donald trump. going after your base works in a state like tennessee and in a state like indiana. look at nevada where the president lost by over two. in arizona, alth...

Investigation was reopened, which turned out to be a big nothing. that's the person with the grievance here. donald trump should be worshipping the ground that james comey walked because he probably more than anyone made him president of the united states. you don't think that's right? >> get robby on that. you and hillary clinton believes in the final days of the campaign when comey said he was reopening the case, hillary clinton believes -- get your thoughts -- that was the kiss of death, why she lost. >> devastating. lost by 70,000 votes across three states. i was there in the office, saw t...

Traditional family values. >> pro-life, fro family. >> what's pro-family does that mean not gay marriage? tell me if it means to you that marriage is only between a man and woman because that is not what americans feel. 60% are pro-gay marriage. >> no, jessica, this is what i'm trying to explain to you. you are making my point. people who believe that marriage is between a man and woman despite the popularity in opposition still have a right to believe what they believe. >> of course. >> and instead they are ostracized and treated like subhuman because of it. >> katrina, if you think that dona...

>> pro-life, fro family. >> what's pro-family does that mean not gay marriage? tell me if it means to you that marriage is only between a man and woman because that is not what americans feel. 60% are pro-gay marriage. >> no, jessica, this is what i'm trying to explain to you. you are making my point. people who believe that marriage is between a man and woman despite the popularity in opposition still have a right to believe what they believe. >> of course. >> and instead they are ostracized and treated like subhuman because of it. >> katrina, if you think that donald trump won wisconsin and ...

Threats because the president-elect slammed him. that's wrong. >> it's interesting, you brought up a very interesting point. you said a lot of union members, lot of working people did vote for donald trump. in fact, the exit polls showed that donald trump did very well. unusually well for a republican. lost by, what, three points. hillary clinton -- sorry, barack obama had won by 18. that's a huge difference. >> he lost by about, i would say, probably five to ten points. but your premise is right. >> and, and voters knew where donald trump stood on these issues you are talking about right now....