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No one said that about someone who had cancer. yet somehow, if it's heroin or cocaine or alcohol, we say, well, they decided they're getting what they deserved. i'm pro life. and i think that if you're pro life, that means you've got to be pro life for the whole life, not just for the nine months you're in the womb. >> i mean, everybody at this table, even howard dean -- >> wow. >> wow. >> that's an authentic moment. >> i thought the one about him talking about his friend in law school who had it all -- >> you've got to watch the whole thing. >> perfect life. >> it's perfect. >> befrt life, be...

Unborn baby. >> governor christie has seen it in the state of new hampshire, into new jersey, new hampshire, he's seen it friends, family, this heroin epidemic, it is an epidemic over the last decade, it's linked to prips pills that we seen. chris christie as i said yesterday have taken steps inside your state to provide cops with the tools they need if they find someone who is oding on heroin. they have the antedote. >> they have experience with the law. now the law deals with these people. and he puts these people in context. >> and the underlining point of everything he said this is that we...

Good-looking. and in perfect shape. the guy used to run 10, 12 miles a week, every week. so, we loved him, but we hated him. because the guy had everything, right? he was running one day in his normal routine. he hurt his back. running. he was in his early 40s, and was not giving into age. and he was running his normal time, and he hurt his back. and so he went to the doctor because he was having trouble working, really hurting. and so he said listen, we're going to give you treatment or whatever, but in the meantime, we're going to give you percocet. help numb the pain. well, about a year lat...

Plenty of money, beautiful-loving wife, beautiful children, great house, he had everything. he's a drug addict. and he couldn't get help, and he's dead. and when i sat there as the governor of new jersey at his funeral, and looked across the pew at his three daughters, sobbing because their dad is gone, there but for the grace of god, it can happen to anyone. and so we need to start treating people in this country, not jailing them. we need to give them the tools they need to recover because every life is precious. every life is an individual gift from god. and we have to stop judging and star...

At all. >> i can help you with the media consultant thing. don't go there. hold on, i'm serious. keep it down here. where everything's all right. >> to be fair, everybody gets help and everyone getsed a violation. >> there's nothing wrong with having a media consultant. >> okay. but quickly though, talking about chris christie again now, i'm telling you, they've going to find a way to get him in the debate. i'll tell you why because chris christie is on the move in new hampshire. i can sense it, we can look at it. i think the youtube video now getting up -- close to three million hits. i had p...