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>> a little bit of word salad is happening in the previous debates. clearly has not had a major impact on his campaign. still the co-front-runner. wonder what you thought of joe biden last night? >> i'm so glad this is the first question you're asking me because i probably was going to bring it up anyway. i think immediately after the debate, there was a lot of commentary about how well joe biden did and i was like were you guys watching the same thing? because the first half of every answer was fine. but he would always trail off and meander and you got lost in, you know, him saying, look fol...

But is that ad effective? >> you know, the willie horton ad gave george willard bush the ability to run with such a racist ad. it was effective in the sense that michael dukakis lost in '80 and bush was able to win. the fact that donald trump is doing this blatant this late in the 21st century, blatant xenophobeia, hatred, it's disgusting. we have to talk about the bomber of florida. we have to talk about what happened in squirrel hill in pennsylvania. we have to see that fear mongering has casualties. >> exactly. >> that the terrorists aren't people, refugees with no money and poor wandering ...

>> and in north carolina, a critical background state, i mean, this is a race, keep in mind, you've got -- you know, this is a race or a state that barack obama actually lost in 2012, won in '08, lost in '12, here in north carolina, the democratic governor candidate is in the lead. but it's like, it's good energy there. >> all i can say is he has benefited more than anyone else from this campaign. you have two people who are just going at each other -- >> so has joe biden. >> andio biden, too. >> remember hillary when she was secretary of state. through the roof. >> but keep in mind, he has sa...

Hello. >> reporter: so even nbc wasn't off-limits. you know, there were some serious moments as well. for one the event raises a lot of money for scholarships, but also both the president and conan o'brien paid tribute to the lives lost in, o'brien is a boston native. for that he had a proud punchline. if you're going to mess with a city i don't pick one where nine out of ten are related to a cop. >> i know. that was a really good line. thank you, peter. in west coast headlines, why people fear food stamps. a one-time executive is calling for gas to cost $7 a gallon. wow. [ phil ] when you...

The man, you sell the woman. >> we've all been complaining for months. >> right. >> okay. we don't know the man. >> who is he. i know the man better. i was really, again, maybe i'm just punch drunk, but i found the rose very compelling. i loved the rose. and, you know, he, you know, romney came across more to me last night as a person than i've ever seen him before. that's accomplished. mission accomplished there. does he -- you know, he doesn't have that good a plan. does he want to start, you know, checking off the things. tax cuts, joe, i know you think tax cuts comprise an economic plan, b...