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And none of that is helpful to biden. all of it detracts from him. and, frankly, newsome has a lot of problems that people will absolutely focus on, whether it's how he dealt with the pandemic, education, school closures, immigration, homelessness, you name it, all related issues, those will be put in the spotlight in the very unlikely case, trace, that biden's not the nominee. >> trace: one analyst in california said he believes gavin newsome might get smoked in that debate. joe concha to you, trump attorney talking about the trial dates. here she is i'll get your response. >> these trial dat...

Now he'll be more powerful than ever. gearing up for what will essentially be a war from outside. he saw him as an embodiedment of all the people that i interviewed while on the campaign trail that really expected donald trump to make concrete decisions about what he promised them. and i don't think donald trump really understands the pressure that he's going to be under now that steve bannon is out of the white house. >> john. >> no question about it and i do think that quality is part of why bannon and charlottesville are connected, even if his departure, his firing was not linked to that. t...