there is no perfect solution but there are marginal improvements. limit the size of magazines, that would have stopped shared loughner from killing as many people before he stopped to reload. make the background checks so it s not automatic that you get it if it s not completed in three days, that might have stopped dylann roof from having his guns. we have to do something. just because no solution is perfect doesn t mean there s nothing we should do. these aren t impulse killers. they re people who are sitting and stewing and i think amy s point is an important one. columbine created a cultural norm where if you re disturbed and disaffected you go out in a blaze of infamy. we need to disempower that norm. and give families tools that if they have one of these young men under their roofs that they are able to address it. i m going to pause this debate because we ll never end it. it s one of those where everybody should admit they would be willing to put everything on the table.
occurred on april 12 1937 in a case call nlrb versus jones and lofton steel. basically any activity said to affect interstate commerce in a are considerable substantial way is subject to congressional authority. so on the specific federal power under commerce, you would like see it go back to about 1936? i m not sure that s possible at this point. you have to start with the government that you have. i think it is important to have some limit on government power. reporter: he s in a debate on how far judges should go back to roll back the national regulatory power. lee concedes some of the new deals labor protections should remain on the books. you re talking about a lot of the era of the supreme court often called the loughner era
talked to people who support the gun owners rights, and they talked about the mental health provisions, but nothing happened. and look at the history, adam lanza, 27 deaths, including him, and james holmes in colorado, and then shane loughner in tucson, and loughner tried to kill one of your colleagues. would this have made a difference? well, one of the things that we do is to strengthen the partnership to make shure that the states can work and set up programs where the law enfor enforcement if they identify a situation and they are a danger to themselves or others, they can remove the firearms from that po person s possession, and get to the bottom of the situation, and they shouldn t have firearms, and keep them away from them. and we have a restoration provision in the bill, too. so people can get their guns back once they have been cured
speculate in the negativeness. fran, in your estimation this should not have happened the way policy is practiced? that s exactly right. the fbi has looked at these active shooter cases. they analyzed 160 cases, 96% of these act alone. most of them are over 90% are males. they often, more than half the time they end up dead, mostly by suicide or by a law enforcement killing. so we ve got a decade of history with these. the biggest ones are the ones you ve talked about. it s the ft. hood shooter, the sandy hook shooter, the shooter, loughner, who shot gabby giffords, the repetitive. we know the big ones. these happen and we understand most of them are at workplace or academic institutions. we have a history we can look at. but rarely do you see this sort of defined pattern of violent activity and we do have to ask the question, why didn t this trigger, in somebody, either the
he aimed his gun at us and fired two or three shots. 12 innocent victims killed, 8 people injured. the shooter, dead. for several terrifying hours, a city on edge, gripped by fear. people were yelling close the doors, look the doors. we heard a very loud gunshot, close by. we re learning much more about the lone gunman, his sketchy past and criminal record. what drove him to commit such an unthinkable act? and the victims, their names just released, family men and women, just doing their jobs. we lost friends, we lost family, we lost co-workers. we re live in our nation s capital with all angles covered. your new day starts right now. good morning and welcome back to a special edition of new day. i am live in the nation s capital on this wednesday, september 17th. and it is a somber morning, following a shooting rampage here at the washington navy