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Like he nitpicked ted cruz and marco rubio and hillary clinton early when he ran against them in the primaries. >> when you look at this, it's hard to argue with you, brandon. tarin, what do you think? this love/hate, picking on the press means he gets more press and at the end of the day, it's good for him. we'll have another four years of a lot of love/hate if you will. >> and alternate truths. what did she say, alternate facts? which at the end of the day are falsehoods or lies. he's going to continue to just ignore what is true or not true, confuse the american people and pretend that what...

Scrupulo scrupulous neutrality. >> be fair but don't be intimidated. >> do not be intimidated, do not shrink from the difficult questions, from the difficult stories. and basically trump, even as he attacks our reporters, he also is quite fixated on "the new york times" and does seem to read it, absorb it and whether it has an influence on him, i'm not sure. but it's not an entire hostility that we're getting from donald trump. it's a complicated fixation. >> that's a love/hate relation. >> i'd make a specific point to the president-elect, who i understand watches. >> he's probably watching no...

Of it. it was something that people had never seen before on the screen. it was a big epic, mythological story, that had these iconic characters. and princess leia was a feisty, powerful, strong-headed princess who was the leader of the resistance against this evil empire. and she embodied that character. she was only 19 when she was cast in the role, and she was playing opposite actors -- i mean, harrison ford was much older than her and she really held her own and she made an iconic character that people were still clamoring to see 40 years later. >> yeah, right, she was 19 years old. and th...

Of it. it was something that people had never seen before on the screen. it was a big epic, mythological story, that had these iconic characters. and princess leia was a feisty, powerful, strong-headed princess who was the leader of the resistance against this evil empire. and she embodied that character. she was only 19 when she was cast in the role, and she was playing opposite actors -- i mean, harrison ford was much older than her and she really held her own and she made an iconic character that people were still clamoring to see 40 years later. >> yeah, right, she was 19 years old. and th...

We'll continue. more news coming up. especially dialing with the white house and what will happen with president-elect trump especially when it deals with the media. we'll be right back. there's a difference between calling people out and understanding the role that the press plays in a free society. what donald trump has proven both as a candidate and now president-elect is that when people are wrong, he's going to hold them accountable. and he's going correct the record. >> we didn't go anywhere. that was incoming white house press secretary. he defended president-elect trump after mr. tru...