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Budget and i think that the serious voter out there, who is concerned about the future of the country and the fiscal sustainability of what we're doing, loved this, from the political perspective. i thought that both candidates came out ahead. >> it was clear and nothing against herman cain that newt gingrich is not just the smartest guy on that stage. he's the smartest guy obviously running for president today, and in terms of being a politics wonk. >> there was a distinction, newt gingrich is a knowledgeable guy. you can't argue with the fact that he knows his stuff and herman cain, likeable...