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I know that a measure of success may take longer than i'd like, may take longer than you'd like, but there will be success in the end one way or the other. >> joining me now, jordan chang, author of a book tonaek taknort korea takes on the world. do you agree that all will be fine? >> there is very little margin of area. we have maybe 12, 18 months before the north koreans can position a nuke to reach the lower 48. and then the policy make community will have to make a decision whether we can deter north korea. so this is an existential issue. and i hope it works out, but it will need a lot of...

What that deal could be. >> yeah. also, kim jong-un probably is going to use his nukes to blackmail south korea and the united states because the kim regime never gave up its goal of reuniting the entire korean peninsula under pyongyang's control. they want to break the alliance between south korea and the u.s., they want theabolished. >> the reason this is important is the south korean alliance with the united states is uniquely strong. we have a mutual defense agreement. we have 27,500 troops in south korea. we have japan next door. we have allies all over the place. it's relevant that this ...

Before we had this confirmation. colonel jack the concept it's an icbm that could travel 4,000 miles and hit the continental united states does that change your analysis of this? >> well, it does. we knew before it could travel about 4100 miles. hans nichols did the calculations and said how far it could go. but it means something else now. it means that they are well on the path of getting a weapon that can get all the way to the continental united states, the lower 48. not just going the 500 miles, the definition says, getting out of the atmosphere and re-entering it. hans nichols also had a...

Brian: take a look at this brand new video showing the moments the u.s. sandy hook shoots down a mock war head over the pacific. that moment considered a major success for the pentagon. it was the first test ever targeting an intercontinental long range missile like north korea appears to be developing and bragging about. our next guest introduced the advanced missile defense act. this is the time is now to deal with the threat of north korea. alaska senator dan sullivan joins us. senator. >> good to see you. brian: i know you worked in the bush administration. i know you remember the secretar...

Time. of course, those on the korean peninsula, but also those in japan, because japan, north korea has the nodong missile, probably able to put a nuke to that, which means our 50,000 or so service personnel in the japanese islands are at risk, and pretty soon the north koreans wonill be able to reach the lower 48 states. they have missiles that can get to the lower 48, but they can't put a nuke on top of them. >> on the flip side here, there's a confusion about the missile used here and whether this may have been some previously unidentified type of missile. are you hearing anything to clear ...