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Crime in and of itself. and some of the allegations that are possibly being investigated may be a threat to national security, not just a violation of title 18 federal criminal law. they could be endangering our national security. >> would firing the fbi director or encouraging your boss, the president, to fire the fbi director potentially be that kind of obstruction? >> it certainly is. >> david from, you had a comment. >> i dread spending the next 12 months with various law professors whether this meets the standard for obstruction of justice. it may or may not in the prosecutable sense, but...

May be a threat to national security, not just a violation of title 18 federal criminal law. they could be endangering our national security. >> would firing the fbi director or encouraging you boss, to fire the fbi director be that kind of obstruction? >> it certainly is. >> and david frum, you had a comment? >> i just want to say i dread spending the next 12 months with various law professors arguing on television about whether or not this meets the standard. >> right. >> for obstruction of justice. because that is it may or may not in the prosecutable sense. but clearly in lower coast, lowe...