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Eliza, let me go to you on this health care plan and the politics of it. some are saying it's going to, according to the cbo report, they're projecting 14 million people next year, 24 to 26 million over a period of time losing their health care. many of them are in donald trump's base, and certainly with a lot of the republicans members of the house, some in the senate facing election next year, that politically, this could be really, really bad for them. >> i think the point you said about being in the same base is crucial, because the trump voter is an in general lower class -- or not in gen...

Sending the best jobs to china and the lousy jobs to immigrants and we are getting screwed. our kids, our daughters and sons are getting put in multiple deployments that don't protect america. you could do an argument either way. maybe the working guys ought to get together and figure out which party to blame. >> it's been a strain in american politics for a while. the same people supported george wallace, some ross perot. there's an angry, lower class white vote that can go either way. this is a swing vote. ronald reagan was able to get those voters in 1980. actually, george w. bush was able ...

Taxes and pay their appropriate amount so we can put it back into the infrastructure. into the economy. to me that makes sense. not penalizing successful people that believe in free market and capitalism. >> look at the watch he's wearing there. >> my family was dead broke. not middle class. lower class. sometimes we couldn't afford -- i will never forget it. my mom said i couldn't get pro keds. >> what did you do. >> i vowed i would never be poor again and i worked for it. i didn't wait for president obama -- >> for a hand out. >> you and i know 2014 is coming. the election year. class warfar...

Think of. >>guest: one is else, the biggest challenges going forward, at a time when state funds are drying up. right new blacks and latinos compare poorly against whites in high school graduation, college enrollment and earning a degree. political scientist says that's got to change. >> otherwise, we are going to develop a country where we have a very well educated population that has great years, and high income, and an ever larger lower class predominantly minority without the opportunity. no one wants to see that. >> it is estimated by 2040 the united states minorities will be in the major...