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>> no doubt. jeff sessions has fairly covered him very well. phil has probably dealt with him during his time in government service. that fateful day is march 2nd. 90 days that president trump has been stewing over this only to pop his top yesterday which just goes to show that the loyalty factor that donald trump has for people is nonexistent. let me tell you what the long range problem of that is, that he's going to find it hard when we see that his -- his government turns over. his close advisers turn over to find qualified people that are willing to go in and work for $150 a year which a l...

The bridge but they made fools of themselves. totally went out and made fools of themselves. >> i wouldn't go that far. >> i think so. it was embarrassing. they lost real credibility, what credibility they had. >> you can say they lost credibility. >> the loyalty factor, they worked hard, thought he was a better choice to run the country than hillary clinton. i think that's a choice they made. >> the fool part is how they got treated afterwards. they went out and got thrown out like yesterday's garbage. so that to me says this is not a guy who honors loyalty, which is something in politics. wh...

About the crowd size. the president turned the conversation to whether mr. comey would pledge his loyalty to him. mr. comey declined to make that pledge, and has recounted to others he told mr. trump he would always be honest with him. but that he was not reliable in the conventional political sense. so i have to ask you, david axelrod, jake tapper also reporting on this loyalty factor, what does that tell you about what trump's approach is to this investigation, in the earliest days of his presidency? >> well, look, i think it speaks more broadly to trump's approach to institutions generally....

Always be honest with him, that he was not reliable in the conventional political sense. so i have to ask you, jake tapper is also reporting on this loyalty factor. what does that tell you about what trump's approach is to this investigation in the earliest days of his presidency? >> well, look, i think it speaks more broadly to trump's approach to institutions generally. he thinks that everyone in the government should be subservient to him, that everyone should owe their loyalty to him. that's not the way our democracy works. it's certainly not the way the fbi was set up to work. it's the re...

's base was really hanging on to that piece, the conservative element was important to trump and he delivered that. abby: what about cutting through the red tape, you give him a minus. >> a lot ongoing. part of this was a complex environment in the white house. to simplify government, simplify healthcare. healthcare will take time, tax reform, starting to know will happen, simplifying healthcare, amplifying government, all sectors, that will be critic you'll, he doesn't get a plus yet. >> in order, it sounds well and good. on both sides. >> the loyalty factor, the right