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41st president. >> although, i will say, and, you know, the private relationship was real. but they were also conscious of the power of their public relationship. and it was president bush 43 who first enlisted them on tsunami and hurricane katrina. as they started to appear together in public, including going to a baseball game together, the crowd who you would cheer. and you can imagine half the crowd can't stand president clinton, half the crowd can't stand president bush, but they loved seeing them together and they recognized and they came to realize the power their friendship had on the ...

Dispute the president's facts and we can see 5,000 different facts, inconsistencies, but his base doesn't care, chris. my message to people that don't like the president is his base likes him. read my book. at least you'll understand from my book. >> why didn't gu to the president when kelly sacked you? why didn't you go over his head and say my loyalties are to the president, not to you, kelly? why did you do that? >> not the right thing to do in that situation. he was the white house chief of staff. the president empowered him as the chief of staff. let's say i did that and i've got a long-t...

Their families. it's scary out there. i know you're going to say, juan, charlottesville or someone shot someone in a pizza parlor. i condemn those acts and they are disgusting and they have no place in america but when you look at numerically the attacks on republicans and the level of attacks. these are not random people on the street. people being attacked on the right are trump cabinet officials, congressmen, senators, trump family members. and when you do that to someone, it's an attack on all of americans because these are democratically elected officials. you are attacking the republic. ...

Getting arrested and suzanne -- >> s sarandon. >> and messing on a beach or porch relaxing this. is evidence that you're not really part of the resistence. >> i have to say also one of the things i can't stand. if you're a young journalism student out had don't waste a question by saying, what grade would you give a president. it is the lamest, laziest question. i'm surprised suzanne didn't fall for it she was like, i'm not going to answer that and moves on. the back handed excellent you have to be aware of. it's easy to do, you can get caught easley. >> trump already gave himself an a plus. t...

For donald trump because they were hoping to get neil gorsuch as you said, and brett kavanagh. >> who rationalized trump and say he gave me that. >> or suburbanits who wanted tax cuts. it's the people who held their nose for tax cuts, deregulation and abortion, those three issues. those people are going to look at this and they're going to say, okay, i got the tax cuts, first of all. we got gorsuch. and also we can't stand to be associated with this guy any more. we just can't stand -- >> is it worth the effort this cycle? >> are they going to go back? it almost doesn't matter how many of thos...