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Leakers and that, et cetera, but there are constantly the messages of the white house that they are, there's disagreement within the staff. i am not surprised by it, but i am surprised that the president is not able to sort of clamp down on it, and say guys, this is what i want to do and now get behind me, and so there are problems there, and the north koreans, they have just never seen anything like it, and of course, neither have the rest of us. and my bet is that it is going to happen, and my bett is that it is going to happen, and the president wants it to happen. >> and so the meat on the...