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Is no privilege for white house counsel. >> harry, what do you make of christie's interpretation of events? wasn't mcgahn protecting himself which cooperating with mueller? >> i mean i think mcgahn, unless he were legally proscribed, would have to talk. he's sort of an establishment washington figure. in that sense he was protecting himself. but as john said, they could have at least launched a legal battle to try to prevent it. but mcgahn is illustrative of a broader point. there are all these names that have surfaced. we hear about them for a couple of days. they go away. but they've given c...

Would happen, he might consider it. or if he's defeated, he might do it during his lame duck period. that's what george h.w. bush did. >> interesting. harry, roger stone looks set to fight these charges. that's what he's saying. he was even on that conspiracy theorist thing, that infowars. what do you think? does he have a chance? >> no, he doesn't have a chance of winning the charges. and he says that. it might be so. you know, today, introduced to the jaws of the law, he was sober, in his blue suit, and no antics outside the courtroom. i think he's sobering up pretty quickly. he may or may n...