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What animated people is a contrast to president trump. what you'll see from all the democratic contenders is they're providing a vision that is different for america and contrast from donald trump. that's what we're going to need. we'll need unity at the end of this thing. >> i want to get your take on this. does the president not know how to run against kamala harris? i mean, obviously she's had the momentum but his focus has been on joe biden. he talked about her debate performance and said, you know, that joe biden got beaten up. does he not know how to run against her? >> to the contrary. ...

Whole life. he's the bully i've always stood up to. he's the bully who would make fun of a stutter and i'd smack him in the mouth. >> leland: it seemed he was making his case pretty forcefully up until the "smacked him in the mouth." is that fair game for everybody? >> it's totally fair game. gloves are off. >> leland: is a good for the president now, that it doesn't matter what you say? that there is no level of dignity that we -- that's no longer the office? >> this is a different type of debate style. we've never seen this in politics. people have been pretty much controlled, and they have ...

Shine, would you agree? >> dana: yeah. her night to shine. >> jesse: she has a lot to lose tonight. >> dana: she will make it to the second debate. one of the things that the democrats have done, the dnc has done is said to get to this first debate 65,000 small donors. to get to the next debate you have to have 130,000. >> jesse: you need momentum. >> dana: she'll be able to do it. many of the others are not going to be able to make that you have fewer people in july. >> juan: by the way, jesse, when you are talking about the advice you are giving her. just reminds me i think you want a debate...

>> you mean how he characterizes them? >> yeah. >> crazy bernie and crazy pelosi and sleepy -- what was it? sleepy jeb? those kind of things. lying ted. i'm not sure. >> there were many. >> there's so many. you know? let's go hash tag whatever. but it's interesting because when i saw kamala harris last week at the msnbc hosted debate, town hall, excuse me, she kind of came off -- it seems like the women who are running in the democratic field really are trying to portray themselves as, you know, unnasty sort to speak. the opposite of. and they're making -- not to take the bait. >> not taking t...

She is somebody who represents a certain level of prestige, a certain level of accomplishment. he would like her. >> approval. >> her approval, yes. and he can't get it with the way he is acting. >> so alice, then you have this issue the nicknames. today he called her crazy unanimous but said i can't do it because bernie is the crazy niem this is the guy of like nims little marco, lying ted. bully people has been a go-to tactic yet. >> nancy pelosi, or unanimous as i call her -- the ms 13 lover, nancy pelosi. we've got to stop crying chuck schumer. and nancy pelosi. >> i don't want to say craz...