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It means he does not know what reform is about. reporter: serve of the democratic candidate spoke at the forum at an historically black college. but none more forcefully than senator kamala harris. >> what do we have in donald trump? someone who dares, dares to use the word lynching. with the blood that has been poured on the soil of south carolina and so many places. and dares to talk about his victimization. reporter: in addition to the lynching comment kamala harris was referring to something president trump said when he spoke at this forum yesterday when he seems to equate the

Reform is about. reporter: serve of the democratic candidate spoke at the forum at an historically black college. but none more forcefully than senator kamala harris. >> what do we have in donald trump? someone who dares, dares to use the word lynching. with the blood that has been poured on the soil of south carolina and so many places. and dares to talk about his victimization. reporter: in addition to the lynching comment kamala harris was referring to something president trump said when he spoke at this forum yesterday when he seems to equate the

You have to shut up. you have to take yourself out of this story because he makes it worse every single day and their strategy now is to chase behind the president. and i think what you're seeing in the last couple of days is a balance of power shift in washington away from the president dominating the senate and the house and at least the senate flexing its muscles because trump now notion he nee -- knows he needs those senators and there's pieces of evidence every day. i think the most illustrative evidence is in the last two days the president has not taken a question from a reporter. he ha...

Those senators more than those senators need him. so you've seen that. there's pieces of evidence every day. but i think the most illustrative evidence is over the last two days the president has not taken a question from a reporter. he has not. he walked away from reporters twice yesterday. he didn't see them today. and i think that's what the senate republicans want from him, to shut up. >> he's taken to twitter to distract, right? >> but even -- >> the lynching comment. >> but that was before this. >> scum of the earth comment. and i do think at this point they do have a message strategy. w...

Naturally. for a couple of years he's been pushing criminal justice reforms and making fellows for people on the right and left. president trump coming here, there is some unfortunate timing given the week he had in terms of how folks, black people in particular responding to his lynching comment. here on this campus, for those who's been pushing reforms and working across the isle, this is a victory, a victory that's beyond partisan politics that people have been incarcerated unfairly. i spoke with a man named lewis reid, an organization working to cut the prison population by half. he puts t...