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conference in germany. this is an important moment, a critical moment in the fight in ukraine. western allies are meeting and have been there to hammer out the latest plan to support ukraine now and support ukraine going forward. a key point of contention right now is germany's refusal so far to supply ukraine with tanks that it said are necessary to win against russia. tanks are not part of the latest aid package that was just announced by the pentagon. a very big package, though. $2.5 billion for ukraine. that does, however, include striker armored vehicles for the very first time....

You heard. >> i think you could find of see in general austin or secretary austin's face a little bit of pain when talked about the issue of main battle tanks. i think you could tell that we certainly want germany to commit to sending the main battle tanks in there. we'd like to see them step forward now. he's trying to be diplomatic in that. it is confusing with me with germany. i mean, they're trying to compare apples and apples. when germany said well the u.s. has to send m1s first. but they take a different logistical footprint and they burn more fuel in a fuel starved region so it is not ...