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Going to reduce premiums for working americans. i think it's going to cost coverage for many americans as the cbo said yesterday. >> right now i'm a no, a firm no. >> are you worried this bill will fail thanks to republicans? pretty damning they're coming out publicly like that. >> i was on the whip team for several year, and what part is you get one group on board and lose another one. it's a matter of math. you have to get to the ma'amic number of 216 in this case, and you have to find that balance in order to do it. but these members who are going out publicly, they hurt the process, but th...

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List, there's a lot of us new governors who got elected to do something big. >> you're the first domino. >> yep. this is our moment. >> this is our moment. you know, i was thinking of the movie "goonies" where the kids were going after one-eyed willy saying this is our moment. this is our moment? what is he talking about, governor? this is their chance to nail the unions. it sounds like, you know an ast no, ma'amic opportunity to nail the other guy and has nothing to do with the budget. >> chris, i tell you what else it has nothing to do with. it has nothing to do with job creation. i mean, ev...

Koch, the big conservative money guy. let's listen to that conversation. this is probably better tharn any press conference because he doesn't know he's being listened to by us. let's listen. >> i talk to kasich every day. you know, john's got to stand firm in ohio. i think we do the same thing with rick scott in florida. i think snyder, if he got a little more support probably could do that in michigan. i mean, you start going down the list, there's a lot of us new governors who got elected to do something big. >> you're the first domino. >> yep. this is our moment. >> this is our moment. you...