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Republic that provided the training, the lethal aid and the capability to houthis. i believe iran, without a doubt, is responsible for this attack through, again, providing lethal aid and training these proxies on how to do exactly this. kristin: and so what are, what are you basing this off of? i know you can't give us too much information, but can you help us understand what kind of evidence the secretary of state might be looking at when he makes this kind of determination? >> well, if we look at the last drone attack that happened on a saudi pipeline, it turns out it came from southern ira...

Educated. quite possible they might be able to reason with her. i doubt seriously they would be able to get anything out of the young yes, ma'ammy wife who was uneducated and so devoted to him. if she thought anything she said would hurt him, even after his death, you know, maybe there's -- i'm surely hopeful they won't use any tactics on the well. but it would be hard pressed to get information from her. probably the daughter, who should be 10 -- she's been reported being 12 or 13. but arabs don't keep up with birthdays very well and that child is only ten. >> jean sason, thank you very much ...

This, for the ego boost? >> there are a couple of different kinds of phoneys. s.e.a.l.s are not the only guys that are played by these guys. they are at the pointy end of the spears. if they are not cia assassin guys an delta force, they are s.e.a.l.s. a lot of guys will do it to get next to a good-looking woman in the bar. they will drop the s.e.a.l. bomb, we call it, the s-bomb. they don't live that lie and go home with it and tell their families. the second kind of guy lives that lie. his wife believes him to be a s.e.a.l. jungle fighter from vietnam. his mother, all his family and friends....