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Fighting over whether ms-13 is a scourge in this country that creates real problems, 10,000 ms-13 members in this country, there's famous for machete attacks, their motto rape control. >> oh, please. >> oh please what. >> you deny there's ten,000 of them. >> we're talking about immigration and suddenly we're talking about you're talking about certain gang members who have done horrific acts within the context of immigration? that's what you're trying to do. that's exactly what sadly journalists like i have to confront and say you cannot put the two together. it is absolutely important when we ...

Decades. his department investigated at least 17 murders by ms-13 in the past years. >> they're extremely violent murders, mostly machete attacks, some by a hundred-dollhandgun. >> reporter: the gang's brutality is used by the president of the united states to push hard line immigration policies. >> these are animals. they cut people. they cut them up in little pieces. >> what trump is trying to do is make ms-13 the face of not only v salvadorian immigrants to the face of -- >> reporter: daniel denver has been reporting on immigration issues for the past decade. how did we get here? >> preside...

Senate obstruction as well. >> tim miller and mike shields, thank you for your time. we'll have you both back. >> thanks. we will find you, we will arrest you. we will jail you and we will deport you. >> president trump vowing to dismantle and decimate the ultra violent ms-13 game. those tough words came during his visit to long island, new york, where the brutal gang is known for machete attacks and linked to at least 20 murders. president trump has made fighting this gang a crucial part of his campaign promise and yet some gang members say his policies are helping their violent groups get ...

Calling cards including brutal machete attacks, even he headings. they threat continue integrate of our nations and our hemisphere. it is here on this sliver of land on this border where we first take our stand. >> sessions prepare remarks actually read as you know by now, quote, where we first take our stand against this filth. but he left that pungent description out of his delivery. "the washington post" reported this week that immigration arrests are up sharply in the first few weeks of the trump administration and arrests of undocumented immigrants with no criminal record. donald trump ha...

So when he reads a story about this bunny who deciduous he doesn't want to live somewhere with those that are not like him, that it's better to go back home to bunny land. but it takes on a darker feel when it's jefferson sessions reading it. here was attorney general sessions a few days ago describing the people who are leaving home to come here. >> international criminal organizations that turn cities and suburbs into war zones that rape and kill innocent civilians and who profit by smuggling poison and other human beings across our borders. depravity and violence are their calling cards inc...