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the tables have turned. >> the idea that jokes aren't funny, it's still very much a thing. >> there are some people who can't get their heads around what they don't know. >> i said i wanted to be a comedian, she said, maybe it's better if you just died. >> i think they thought of women as a different species. >> for view ladies are capable of being a comedian, so everybody sticks by them. here's somebody that thinks they do it. >> this is a great argument that women are doing much better work than men. >> you're welcome. ♪ ♪ when was the hardest -- what's the hardest part about...

The carson show and i called my agent and i said, i think it went really well and he said, oh, i'm sorry, honey, but they just called and they said they would not feel comfortable with a woman in the room being a comedy writer is not the most macho profession. so i think there is a certain defensiveness and overcompensation in. i like that inside track of getting to hear how men talk. and if women weren't around because it was almost like you weren't around, it was filthy. the language was disgusting. i loved it. you'll have such a time, such fun, such joy. oh, i have to warn you, though, ther...

The most macho profession. so i think there was a certain defensiveness and overcompensation. >> like the inside track of getting to hear how men talk if women weren't around. it was almost like you weren't around. >> it was filthy. the language was disgusting. i loved it. >> you'll have such a time, such fun, oh you'll -- i have to warn you, though, there's a street down there in rome where it just isn't safe for a woman. >> where? where? where? [ laughter ] >> when you get to your show of shows, that's a very famous writer's room. and you had two women who worked at separate times. the first...

>> there were ten variety shows on at the same time that carol burnett was on, and they were approximately ten comedy writers on each show. and i was the only woman out of all of them. >> the funny thing about female writers in television was that in the beginning, i would not say they were very welcomed, although there were certainly exceptions. >> i interviewed for the carson show and i called my agent and i said, i think it went really well. and he said, i'm sorry, honey, but they just called and they said they would not feel comfortable with a woman in the room. >> being a comedy writer is...

>> i interviewed for the carson show and i called my agent and i said, i think it went really well. and he said, i'm sorry, honey, but they just called and they said they would not feel comfortable with a woman in the room. >> being a comedy writer is not the most macho profession, so i think there is a certain defensiveness and overcompensation. >> i like that inside track of getting to hear how men talk if women weren't around. because it was almost like you weren't around. >> it was filthy! the language was disgusting! i loved it. >> he'll have such a time, such fun, such -- oh, you'll -- i...