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Liberian election when the liberians elected a female president but we can't pretend misogyny doesn't exist. >> oh, come on. >> she took it a step further. she said women in power just get negatively characterized over time more so than men. that was the larger argument. what do you say? >> first of all, hillary clinton doesn't want to take responsibility for anything, she lost the election because she's hillary clinton not because she's a woman and, yes, of course, women in power are more negatively portrayed, hard charging man, a woman is a -- can i go after lindsey graham and use a bad word...

Scream building misogyny doesn't change things. >> i disagree. it clearly played a role. donald trump is a cliché of old fashioned masculinity. and a lot of people long for that kind of masculinity which is they ever coming back, but they long for it. to say that his hyper macho stereotype is not part of why he got elected, i mean it wasn't his knowledge. >> you saw this in the primaries. if he was standing in the middle of the debate stage, he was just a bigger figure than anyone else up there. he had a certain bearing and that helped, but hillary clinton is not good at politics. she is not ...

>> but she said women in power get negatively characterized over time more so than men. >> first of all, hillary clinton doesn't want to take responsibility for anything. she lost the election because she is hillary clinton not because she is a woman. yes, of course, women in power are more negatively portrayed. a hard charging woman, can i go after lindsey graham and use a bad word? we know what it is. if you want to be a woman who is influential, stand up to it. ignore it and it will change. scream building misogyny doesn't change things. >> i disagree. it clearly played a role. donald trump...