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And if you knock out child labor i may have to pay $6 extra for sweatshirts and we can have -- can't have that. when did liberals start defending the exploitation of cheap labor? when did that happen? >> i want people out of the shadows so they are not abused or subjugated by on scrupulous people who take advantage of them while they are here working. one of the advantages of a long-term change with increasedh minimum wage is you will see silicon valley fill that void, john deere bought a huge deal -- over $300 million to buy a company that makes the lettuce bot to automate that. there are lon...

American economy is going to flow and that will harm all americans. >> tucker: this is like a macro question but i wonder if it ever occurs to you. how did you come a liberal law professor from new york city wind up as a spokesman for big employers who exploit low-wage labor? how did you get in that place customer you are defending agricultural and service sector employers who pay low wages? >> alignment and not sure we are having the same conversation. i'm saying the same thing that the organized labor said the last time we came close to comprehensive immigration reform. they supported confer...

All americans. >> tucker: this is a macro question. i wonder if it ever occurs to you, how did you a liberal law professor from new york city wind up the spokesman for big employers who exploit low-wage labor? how'd that -- ever think how'd i get in had this place? you're defending agricultural and service sector employers who pay low wages. like did you think you were going to wind up in that place when you were a kid? >> not sure we're having the same conversation. >> tucker: i think we are. >> what i'm saying is the same thing that the organized labo labor -- the last time we came close to ...

>> in the meantime, president obama also commuted the sentence of oscar lopez rivera, who,th as a member of f.a.l.n. was accused of plotting to overthrow the government, during the 70s under lopez rivera, f al and planted more than 130 bombs in various u.s. cities. lopez rivera was never convicted of harming anyone. the left described him as a political prisoner who was wrongly convicted. tucker. >> tucker: trace gallagher. thanks a lot, trace. obama's clemency makes sure manning will only serve seven years. what kind of message will it send to other soldiers who might feel tempted to reveal o...

Message we sent about revealing sensitive national security documents. >> in the meantime, president obama also commuted the sentence of oscar lopez rivera, who has as a member ofn was accused of plotting to overthrow the government, planted more than 100 bombs. lopez rivera was never convicted of harming anyone. the left described him as a political prisoner who was wrongly convicted. tucker. >> tucker: trace gallagher. obama's clemency makes sure manning will only send seven years, what kind of message will it send to other soldiers who might feel tempted to reveal other secrets? we are trim...