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Increased his troop caps at the border, is that nato seems to be more unified and more cohesive every day. >> yes, and, lawrence, we have been talking about this several weeks ago, i would have been worried about nato cohesion. let us not forget we had a pretty rough time over the last several years maintaining nato cohesion. i give a lot of credit to the biden administration pulling it together. and let's make no mistake, if putin does invade ukraine, he is guaranteeing everybody will now understand why it's important to have nato, and why was it important to expand nato to those countries th...

Together. and let's make no mistake, if putin does invade ukraine, he is guaranteeing everybody will now understand why it's important to have nato, and why was it important to expand nato to those countries that might be under threat tonight if not for that expansion. >> one point the president made today is, if there is any kind of invasion, the new pipeline, which is a german pipeline will be -- it will not run. he made it very definitive, how can the president of the united states say that definitively about that pipeline that we do not control? >> great observation. and, i don't know exac...

Civilians and fighters and i would even say probably even with the russian troops themselves, i'm not sure how well fighting in a winter time and chemical gear is going to be very difficult. and obviously depending on wl weather conditions and winds, those kind of chemicals can drift into neighboring countries. but it would be a total disaster. that is a tough political decision. but we establish a red line. if we do, what will we do about it. it could lead to a confrontation with the russians if it is deemed that unacceptable. but that is a political decision. >> but, general, are there optio...