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Dialed mr. martin back or that he dialed you back. >> yes, sir. >> then there were points in time when you would remember what was happening after the call was reconnected? >> yes, sir. >> it's your recollection that while at the mailbox that's when the phone hung up at least once? >> yes, sir. >> and before that, after mr. zimmerman was keeping his eye on trayvon martin, coul, dou remember the phone hanging up? >> he began walking back home -- >> before you get to that. we were using this point where trayvon martin says to you that

>> that is what i do. >> and look at the cameraman, second move. >> bill you actually hide cameras in men's bathrooms. dou so you understand photo journalism more than anybody? >> i don't like kind of. he was wearing the t-shirt of the show he was on two nights before. he had a late show t-shirt on. i will go through that about a cotton poly blend that the p.r. department sent us the for. >> and plus, he is carrying a stuffed animal. >> i need to know more about that. who is that for. what kind of weird kinky thing is he in to? it's growing. he has this thing going there. >> do you think it mi...

>> that is what i do. >> and look at the cameraman, second move. >> bill you actually hide cameras in men's bathrooms. dou so you understand photo journalism more than anybody? >> i don't like kind of. he was wearing the t-shirt of the show he was on two nights before. he had a late show t-shirt on. i will go through that about a cotton poly blend that the p.r. department sent us the for. >> and plus, he is carrying a stuffed animal. >> i need to know more about that. who is that for. what kind of weird kinky thing is he in to? it's growing. he has this thing going there.

That dou can't do it. you can't do it. >> no, no. you can't do it. >> bill: i'm much lighter than you guys than i am on more his or rove. i am, i will admit it i'm much lighter on you guys than i am on them. >> because he is the president, he needs to have some dignity and some respect and to be intracious and to go in on the book? i still can't get over that. >> bill: i think you are making a good point. he probably should have overlooked the dopey book. what difference does it make? he is the president and he has got the big jet and then she is down there in -- i look arizona. it's not a bad...

This social safety net, without those commitments president obama talks about, but if it's ryanism's turn to triumph the way reaganism did? then we will all feel the pain of an america without a commitment to basic human dignity. still to come, digging into the obama plan, the politics and the policy, howard fineman and bob greenstein join me next. and donald trump starts talking, which is to say lying about a run for president. dou. hey, you can't take allegra with fruit juice. what? yeah, it's on the label. really? here, there's nothing about juice on the zyrtec® label. what? labels are...