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We're against the criminal element. we want to end that magnet system that brings undocumented workers into this country. because here, i'll tell you, i think it does reduce the wages for american workers and undercuts them, but at same time, i want to bring their wages up. that is, allow them to enter into legality so we can tax them, they can learn english and incorporate themselves. it's the other side that really doesn't want to end the problem. so i guess in all this debate and discussion, i think the important thing, keith, in all of this is to say, we're ready to say, we're going to fin...

Akin to naziism, how is workers looking for a biometric i.d. card progressive? >> i don't know that it is. but here's what it does tell you. it tells you that there are those of us reaching across the aisle, that are for enforcement and ending illegal immigration as we know it. so here's my point. i think we need to debate it and to discuss it so we don't create a national i.d. card. but here's what i do think we might agree on. my grandfather in the '30s was the first one to get a social security card, then my dad got one, i got one, my daughter got one, and now my grandson, 7 years old, gorg...