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in her video today, congresswoman cheney played a longer version of testimony we first heard some of yesterday from eric herschman, one of the white house lawyers, that eastman spoke with. >> it was the day after eastman -- i don't remember why, he called me or texted me, wanted to talk with me and said he couldn't reach others. and he started to ask me something about georgia and revealing something, potentially for appeal. and i said to him, are you out of your f-ing mind? i said, i only want to hear two words coming out of your mouth from now on. orderly transition. i said, i don'...

eastman -- i don't remember why he called me, or he texted me or called me, wanted to talk with me. and he said he couldn't reach others. and he started to ask me about something dealing with georgia preserving something, potentially for appeal. and i said to him "are you out of your f-ing mind?" i said i only want the hear two words coming out of your mouth from now on. orderly transition. i don't want to hear any other f-ing words coming out of your mouth no matter what other than orderly transition. repeat those words to me. >> what did he say? >> eventually he said "orderly trans...

Prosecution there. >> by the former president's standards, is this on another level? >> well, i think donald was too clever by half here. i think you can make a wire and mail fraud case. fraud is everywhere and would. in a wire and mail fraud case, prosecutors could point to the final print that says, we may use this money for something other than talked about if it that is shown, transferable. andly when is the last time, anderson, you read the contract when you rented a car? >> i can warl reechlt these are experienced lawyers. this is an area they've worked in before. trump has raised millio...

Weakest most pathetic federal agencies that does almost nothing to police these sorts of deceptions. as long as the money is spent for something vaguely related to a trump cause, that the money is not just put in trump's pocket, i don't think there is any basis for a criminal prosecution. it's just another grift. it's a rip-off of the honest hard-working people who actually gave the money thinking it was for an election fund. but i don't think there is any criminal prosecution there. >> david, even by the former president's standards, is this on another level? >> well, i think donald was too c...