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Comey say something? it's a legitimate question, there is no doubt. >> wittes says he didn't actually maybe think it was so bad, that he thought it was manageable. >> but if it was manageable, it's hard to argue at the same time it was an obstruction of justice as a crime. so that is somewhat in trump's favor. but from comey's perspective, you can think for much of this period there is no attorney general at all, that sessions hasn't even been confirmed. >> fair point, so who would he have gone to? >> then very soon after sessions is confirmed, he recuses himself from the russia situation. and...

About? were they sending signals? tonight's story with the "new york times" shows there were a greater range of contacts between people in trump's cam and the us russians. i have to say, and i hate to blow my own horn, that i reported them first in october. the main point was not the salacious stuff. it was that the trump team was communicating with russian officials during the campaign and there was an exchange of information, some degree of collusion. tonight we see more evidence of that. the trump people work -- putin is undermining american democracy. >> and in the "new york times" story, ...

Now, what were they talking about? were they sending signals? tonight's story with the "new york times" shows there were a greater range of contacts between pop eople in trump's ca and the us russians. i have to say, and i hate to blow my own horn, that i reported them first in october. the main point was not the salacious stuff. it was that the trump team was communicating with russian officials during the campaign and there was an exchange of information, some degree of collusion. tonight we see more evidence of that. the trump people work -- putin is undermining american democracy. >> and i...

Actually pay more than they were paying for health insurance before the affordable care act. joining me now is msnbc's crystal ball and jonathan gruber, mit professor of economics who helped write the massachusetts health care law. professor gruber, this number, the 1.5% is what we've been wondering about since we first started hearing the stories about policy cancellations and people having to get new insurance and what we wanted to know is how many of these people will actually end up paying more? some estimates said maybe 5% but it turns out to be something very low. >> well, the main point...

Actually pay more than they were paying for health insurance before the affordable care act. joining me now is msnbc's crystal ball and jonathan gruber, mit professor of economics who helped write the massachusetts health care law. professor gruber, this number, the 1.5% is what we've been wondering about since we first started hearing the stories about policy cancellations and people having to get new insurance and what we wanted to know is how many of these people will actually end up paying more? some estimates said maybe 5% but it turns out to be something very low. >> well, the main point...