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Fringe republican. >> no. megyn: he's, you know, a guy who's very well liked and beloved by many people in the republican party. so for him to say this, does that suggest to you that this is a mainstream position and that more, more people may be signing on to this? >> to say it's a mainstream position -- megyn: that it could become? >> it certainly could become. and mitch daniels, we should point out, too -- i love the way he said that, government works better without unions. most ceos would say our business would run better without unions as well. the issue here is he's got a case to build b...

'90s, when you now have the mainstream position is to support marriage equality. that's a huge leap in a short amount of time. the president should be applauded. his evolution of personal beliefs is very important. but there is still a lot of work to be done in translating personal beliefs in the public policy this is now 30 states, ban gay marriage, the president said it's a states rights issue. there is still room to push him. and i think all credit should be given to the ljbt activist community. they were ferocious and kept the pressure on. >> i want to read something that was posted, who w...

I remember being in the oval office in 1993, in the first year of bill clinton. i remember asking him what he thought he would be remembered for? lifting the ban on gays in the military and health care. this is a sea change on where america is. and it's a big deal as biden would say. >> and dorian, in that clinton white house in 1996, the president signed the defense of marriage act, which, by the way, was relatively noncontroversial, it passed the senate with 85 votes, only 14 democrats voting against it, the president was basically -- if he hadn't signed it, they could have overwritten his v...

The bush economic doctrines that brought us into the recession. and when it comes to the other cultural issues, the president is in a mainstream position here in terms of what he believes on issues as basic as women's health care and rights of privacy that americans really value in this country. and as the republicans keep talking, they're losing the center. that's where the president is gaining ground. >> all right. we still have andrea mitchell with us in washington. you're next, but first, i want to show the senator this gallup usa today poll. and factor this into the conversation, 30% of t...

>> i remember bill daily was asked what he learned. he said i learned one thing, by the end of the presidential campaign, the american people know who you really are. what we see in the republican contest, 20 debates and now they've said no more exposure, please, is people know who these candidates really are. they know mitt romney now. they know newt gingrich, and they certainly know rick santorum. they are out of, i guess, the mainstream position from a democratic point of view. the polls reflect the fact that more exposure for romney is not helping. he's falling further and further behind. ...