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Wrap up. >> some of the fines or maybe all of the fine money at the faa when they find a problem actually be invested back into the airlines' programs to improve these maintenance programs. that's one idea. whether it work -- whether it will work, i guess we don't know. >> mary, you go ahead, what do you think will work? >> i'm going to use the big "r" word, regulation and re-regulation. the airlines are in a situation like they were in the '30s, they're bleeding red ink. they need help on safety. they have lost control on some of the operations. the airlines were regulated because they asked ...

The maintenance programs reflect that commitment to safety. now, after your reporting, gary, do you have a problem with that statement? >> well, i believe airlines do want to have safe flights. no one wants to have flights that have problems. however, these problems just keep recurring. the inspector general for the department of transportation has pointed out that airlines and the faa have poor oversight over a lot of the repair-station work, so the oversight is not being done, the work is not being done. yes, i believe the airlines would like to have safe operation, but there are so many pro...

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