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They need young voters to turn out for this election. if they're going to avoid a real red tide. >> susan page, we always appreciate your perspective and expertise. mike memoli, have a safe trip. we appreciate your reporting. we'll talk soon. pennsylvania is set to be a majority maker for the senate in these midterms, but democrats, best chance of gaining a seat held by republicans there has been made more complicated by democratic candidate john fetterman's halting debate performance on tuesday. last night, the lieutenant governor referenced the challenges he faced on the debate stage, and ...

Former president of the united states. >> there have been a lot of people who have gone to jail around donald trump. at what point does that start to stop and people start to say, all right, enough? or never? >> well, i think for the hard core trump base, never. i think it's about 50/50. if you look at the polling, you know, there's about half the republicans that want him again and half that don't. the problem for the rest of the republicans that don't want him is they're all fragmented among a bunch of people. he got 45% of the vote in the republican primary in '16. he's never been a majorit...

Talk about including insulin. something the senate has not passed yet but democrats want to help the midterms. >> and it's not just him and what he's done. he's the majority maker. he was the last guy elected in -- after a runoff. and it was -- there was so much happening in georgia. it was his election that allowed the democrats to be in control. to have the 50 one-vote margin with kamala. so that's i think another reason why he's like i know, i know you voted for me because you gave democrats control through me, but just give it more time. >> that's one of the key tests. it's a tough climate...

Log Cabin isn't confirming the report, but if Trump shows, it would be the first time a former president has attended one of the group's events.

Audience in quietness. god love you for that answer. and for taking on that question. eugene, juror faults. only democrats are capable of adding a mess for the president of their own party, already dealing with a still out of control pandemic, and oh by the way, dunkirk by air half a world away. >> i do recall times when the freedom caucus, on the republican side for example, made big trouble for republican presidents, so it, democrat perhaps are uniquely talented at this. look, with the majority as slim as nancy pelosi's, everybody's a majority maker. the moderates are, which you need the pro...