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They affiliated or they joined together with the intent of not being governed by any other prison gang. >> bulldogs they're not as organized as your other gangs. they don't have the leadership in their organization. their rule of thumb is, that majority rules. basically if there's issues on the yard that they have to try and resolve, the bulldogs would get together and take a vote if you will. and the majority rules to go with that, there's no set leader of bulldog. >> if a bulldog has a chance to attack a southern hispanic, right now on this institution in this yard, it's on sight. if they ca...

Can't, because they have been unsuccessful, but what about this argument that if you depress the prices and, again, depress the prices, more people try it, and then the government comes in and says oh, no, we will tax it that's the argument you always hear. we'll tax it. put these excise taxes on it and now just have massive tax evasion, right? that adds to the problem of the difficulty in enforcement down the road, no? >> perhaps. but and i'm no advocate of higher taxes, more tax coming into the government is a good thing. but, ending the crime would be such a wonderful thing. we don't have w...

Can't, because they have been unsuccessful, but what about this argument that if you depress the prices and, again, depress the prices, more people try it, and then the government comes in and says oh, no, we will tax it that's the argument you always hear. we'll tax it. put these excise taxes on it and now just have massive tax evasion, right? that adds to the problem of the difficulty in enforcement down the road, no? >> perhaps. but and i'm no advocate of higher taxes, more tax coming into the government is a good thing. but, ending the crime would be such a wonderful thing. we don't have w...

Can't, because they have been unsuccessful, but what about this argument that if you depress the prices and, again, depress the prices, more people try it, and then the government comes in and says oh, no, we will tax it that's the argument you always hear. we'll tax it. put these excise taxes on it and now just have massive tax evasion, right? that adds to the problem of the difficulty in enforcement down the road, no? >> perhaps. but and i'm no advocate of higher taxes, more tax coming into the government is a good thing. but, ending the crime would be such a wonderful thing. we don't have w...

That guarantees everybody health insurance and thing we're going to get that tomorrow. >> the bottom line in all of this is the supreme court going to turn around with the legislative branch of government has done. we have a representative government. these people were sent to washington to do something about health care. the president was elected on health care reform. that's what he wanted to do. he gets it passed. the majority rules. we move forward and now the supreme court is taking this up because there's 26 states that say they don't want to do it because probably because they don't lik...