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Stop health reform from succeeding. take, for example, republican senator judd gregg of new hampshire. mr. gregg went on the fox news channel today to decry the use of reconciliation to pass reform. >> it's bad policy, and to do it this way is to really railroad the american people and the congress. >> reconciliation, railroading the american people and the congress. railroading them. that new judd gregg really is not going to be happy when we introduce him to the old judd gregg. >> we are using the rules of the senate here. that's what they are, senator. reconciliation is a rule of the senate...

They delivered and we are not debating the process, which we have been doing for the last 15 months, that's the problem. >> you've got to tell your guys, you've got to get on the right side of history on this deal. >> damage amn right. >> the right side of history to stop this bill and not put us in a bankruptcy. look what has happened to the greeks and the british. we can't afford it. we can't afford the tax increases. >> let's have a vote. that's the issue today. let's have an up or down vote and then we will decide. >> according to the senate rule, they need to get 60 votes. >> no. no. no. ...

The next step is to bridge the differences between the two bills so the president can get something on his desk to sign. in order to do that two things will happen. first the house will pass the senate version of the bill and then there will be a small package of tweaks to that bill that will be passed by the democrats under majority rules. all appearances are, it's going to happen. there are things the republicans can do to yell and scream about it. there are ways they can try to slow it down. there are epithets they can scream at it and crowds to be whipped into blood-thirsty fear about it b...

Support that position. now, is there something wrong with majority rules? i don't think so. >> of course, today on health care, both sides are arguing the exact opposite position. the senate parliamentarian has a say on whether or not reconciliation can be used, and for what provisions. another thing to keep in mind is that reconciliation is only supposed to apply to provisions that are jermaine -- germane to the budget. now, both parties as we mentioned have used the procedure to pass nail-biters. republicans have used it more frequently, by a 2 to 1 margin, republicans use reconciliation to ...

Does he make an appeal saying this is a simple majority, majority rules, make it sound like motherhood and apple pie? >> he ought to call it mantle rule. the country, i think, believes in majority rule. the republicans have a completely phony argument here. this affects one-sixth of the american economy. i went back and looked what the reagan people were saying about the reagan economic program in 1981, saying this was going to transform the entire american economy and passed it through a process called reconciliation, which is majority rules. whether you like what reagan did or not, there's a...