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Nationalism and i think it's correct. the last -- the record for the longest shutdown was 21 days in 1995 under clinton. i think he'll extend it to placate that base. i think he will. >> then the question becomes whether mcconnell goes along with that, which i think he will. when it goes on long enough, it's anyone's guess. but what is interesting is you think about wedge issues and polarizing issues, i think about george w. bush's morally bankrupt use of marriage equality in 2004. at least they were right about what the majority view was, right? it was cynical, but they were on the right side...

James comey, the power to issue a pardon, can you do it for any reason you like? can you do it if someone give you a suitcase of cash? i think no but professor and people who are more sympathetic to the president think yes. that's going to be a question if congress wants to engage on impeachment, it's not a legal question for the courts. >> if attorneys believe the president committed a felony encouraging and requesting cohen to lie and pay off stormy daniels, karen mcdougal and there's evidence from david pecker and others, do they just drop that because he's the president and can't be indict...

President committed a felony encouraging and requesting cohen to lie and pay off stormy daniels, karen mcdougal and there's evidence from david pecker and others, do they just drop that because he's the president and can't be indicted? >> as jennifer said earlier, that's the $64,000 question. it's unclear given the position is and has been for long time. the majority view is a sitting president can't be charged criminally. you can wait on it because the statute of limb ta limitations expire. there are various options they have. i do not believe and if i were the united states attorney, i don't...

Illegal immigration and they support what's actually going on. that is not -- from what i'm hearing, is not the majority view. there is a second group that they are pure military. they are going to follow the orders of the president, just regardless of political ideology. they're going to follow the orders, but they really come at this problem in terms of the money situation, like, you know, how much is this going to cost. and then the third group is really how is this going to overall affect military readiness, that it's a waste of money. even the troop level response coming down to the comma...

How good of the republicans in congress have been for the military over the last two years. the one we were just talking before we were surprised by this exercise of the president is watching they are at fort drum. we were speaking about the democrats, they are getting national media attention. alexandria ocasio-cortez is certainly one of them, and one of the things she sent an interview on the daily show is that our military doesn't need any more money, but it didn't even ask for which is not exactly true. what do you make of that tension within the democratic party, is it rail or do you thin...