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With the russian government in the course of this campaign? what will you do? they never ask him -- >> i guess what -- >> this is the transcript. >> i guess you have to wonder then if that is the case, if the feeling is that the question asked and answered, then why did the attorney general recuse himself from any possible -- >> i think he's trying to get the issue off the table, did the right thing. the democrats can't get over it so they're trying to grab onto this russian thing. >> jonathan? >> i'm in keirsten's camp at least about the interview. there are a number of people like that in th...

Does that mean his dry cleaner knew, his grosser? >> he told "the new york times" he told a senior campaign person but -- >> i take no second chair to want to skewer donald trump. >> absolutely. >> in this case -- >> make bernstein look -- >> the idea they were using him as an emissary seems highly unlikely. >> highly unlikely. i'm skeptical. i think generally where we're at is there are -- it's plausible some of this happened and it's normal and yet you could also make an argue amount that there's something untoward. these are the two things i would suggest. one is trump has the ability to de...