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The ball is advancing public slowly and incrementally. you are having people explain -- >> harris: the point is did anything go on between the trump campaign in russia, that's the point, right? >> the final answer at this point is we don't know. >> they were asking him to reconcile what he said before. i don't think we are likely to have a truth emerge from these kinds of hearings when you have the kind of political grandstanding we saw from both republicans and democrats. this is what congressional hearings are often all about, far more an exercise in chest pumping than it is -- >> harris: th...

At serious threat or maybe like marco rubio, ted cruz, thinking about running for president in 2016. so this is a bigger, broader battle. this is a one skirmish in the bigger broader battle that boehner won but there are plenty more to come. the idea that immigration is going to be the next issue, that would be one where you would see outside groups coming in and fighting back against boehner, and boehner will not have the same pull that he did on this budget bill. look, this was to get republicans out of the hole they did dug themselves. no more government shutdowns. why would you want to go ...