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Saved. it's going to be completely disconnected from any semblance of the normal mechanisms of democratic accountability. the bankruptcy court is not a democracy. it is a dictatorship by design. joining me now, lee saunders, president of the american federation of state, county and municipal employees. afscme, afl-cio union. lee, you registered your objections to the bankruptcy proceedings in court. what are your objections? >> well, first of all, we believe that the state and the city are actually acting illegally by attacking the pensions of retirees who have worked for 30, 35, 40 years for ...

Saved. it's going to be completely disconnected from any semblance of the normal mechanisms of democratic accountability. the bankruptcy court is not a democracy. it is a dictatorship by design. joining me now, lee saunders, president of the american federation of state, county and municipal employees. afscme, afl-cio union. lee, you registered your objections to the bankruptcy proceedings in court. what are your objections? >> well, first of all, we believe that the state and the city are actually acting illegally by attacking the pensions of retirees who have worked for 30, 35, 40 years for ...

It is a dictatorship by design. joining me now, lee saunders, president of the american federation of state, county and municipal employees. afscme, afl-cio union. lee, you registered your objections to the bankruptcy proceedings in court. what are your objections? >> well, first of all, we believe that the state and the city are actually acting illegally by attacking the pensions of retirees who have worked for 30, 35, 40 years for the city of detroit. pensions are an obligation, and pensions are an obligation within the state constitution. we believe that it's illegal for the city to go afte...

Together a few weeks ago talk about what he found out. >> bill: let's start with the $15,000 in free day care. who pays for that? >> well, that particular program, bill, that comes from the federal government. they send the money to the states and then here in pennsylvania the state matches about 100% of that. so that $15,000, the single mother of two making $19,000 is entitled to, that money comes from 50% federal and 50% state moneys. >> bill: okay. and then if the mom chooses to put her tykes into the head start program, it's another 13,400 so if has one tyke in head start and one tyke in d...

Together a few weeks ago talk about what he found out. >> bill: let's start with the $15,000 in free day care. who pays for that? >> well, that particular program, bill, that comes from the federal government. they send the money to the states and then here in pennsylvania the state matches about 100% of that. so that $15,000, the single mother of two making $19,000 is entitled to, that money comes from 50% federal and 50% state moneys. >> bill: okay. and then if the mom chooses to put her tykes into the head start program, it's another 13,400 so if has one tyke in head start and one tyke in d...