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Be to give you a tax credit that will be used to buy insurance for you. you're not going to have a gap there. you'll be covered. you'll have the opportunity and it can be used and that's the only thing can be used for is to buy insurance. >> let me give you an example because people in the gap at the medicaid rate fall in the gap that they're not eligible for those tax subsidies but let's could what the cms did, that's the center for medicaid serves, medicare and medicaid services. they looked at how your plan for affect someone in your district, in district one in georgia. a 60-year-old makin...

Don't want to cut someone who's making $30,000, $40,000, $5,000, $8,000 subsidy for them. this is important to their staffers. that's why you see the divide. i think johnson's right. if you want to change the law, you have to go out and actually the law. you can't just say -- i, the executive, get to choose who i want. >> byron, a couple of members of congress, every time we've had the discussion, whispered afterward. even if it happened that they lost the subsidies, that they could raise the pay of these -- of these staff members. so it's not quite, you know, to be commensurate with the cut. ...

Making $30,000, $40,000, $5,000, $8,000 subsidy for them. this is important to their staffers. that's why you see the divide. i think johnson's right. if you want to change the law, you have to go out and actually the law. you can't just say -- i, the executive, get to choose who i want. >> byron, a couple of members of congress, every time we've had the discussion, whispered afterward. even if it happened that they lost the subsidies, that they could raise the pay of these -- of these staff members. so it's not quite, you know, to be commensurate with the cut. >> right. actually, you know, jo...

Which had this one demand, this vitter amendment this idea that you wouldn't let the federal government pay any employee contribution for members of the house or their staff, would you have voted that down in the senate? >> there's no way i'm going to vote for that. the bottom line is that the person that's answering phones in my office that's making $30,000 a year needs that benefit or they would be in trouble. all those folks over there in the house of representatives who don't want to have is that benefit, giving that benefit up when this debate's over with. >> they don't have to vote on it...

Which had this one demand, this vitter amendment this idea that you wouldn't let the federal government pay any employee contribution for members of the house or their staff, would you have voted that down in the senate? >> there's no way i'm going to vote for that. the bottom line is that the person that's answering phones in my office that's making $30,000 a year needs that benefit or they would be in trouble. all those folks over there in the house of representatives who don't want to have is that benefit, giving that benefit up when this debate's over with. >> they don't have to vote on it...