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Will have a very adverse consequences on their people and on the insurance capability and access and cost for almost every american. so i think they're going to be against this bill. the really issue is whether republican members of the senate are going to reflect what they know to be the case, this is not a good bill, not good for the american people or they're going to vote based upon what they think is their political imperative. we'll see but i don't think this bill is going to go anywhere in the senate. i think the senate will perhaps look at making changes in the bill and trying to send ...

Plank and they're hoping now they'll regain the house and the senate back in the midterms and winning and losing and all that. but forget the politics aspect of it. does the -- if obamacare standing alone, if it had been left alone, do people think it was going to do more good things for the american people or is it in trouble and causing bad things? >> well, actually sympathize with the republicans like lindsey graham who said maybe we should let the string run out a little more here and see how obamacare does, see if there is more impetus for making changes. insurers pulling out of states, p...

Bannon say that he isn't going anywhere. i bring in jonathan swann for political co-reporter, based on your the recording and what you're hearing, do you think they can work it out? >> there will be some give and take there. jared kushner has been unhappy with the way the white house has been performing and performing is the right word. when he tucson his colleagues, he discusses the white house in terms that you might describe as silicon valley start-up. he says we need to keep making changes. it is amorphous. we need to keep tinkering. and he has seen steve bannon as a problem. he sees that ...

>> democrats are raring to go. there's a difference between the democrats up for re-election this year versus the last couple of years since the affordable care act was passed. keep the affordable care act. no one is acknowledging that changes don't need to be made but key the law in place. we're not seeing democrats start to say, oh, i'm not sure, should we repeal it. everyone is in lockstep to keep it in place and then start another conversation about making changes. you can't have a conversation about fixes until repeal the law is off the table. >> a lot of numbers that have been parched so...

Committee has been pushing for. so, for example, they would like medicaid expansion to go away at the end of this here, go away altogether, not wait until 2020. they want all obamacare taxes to be repealed right away. they also want work requirements for able-bodied adults on medicaid. i know that's a lot of wonk-ish talk but this goes to show the range of changes they have been pushing for. >> also important, if you want to talk about the politics at play, they make these changes, it likely can't pass the senate and it's not going to get any moderates in the house on board. >> right. if you'r...