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Getting to 216, your numbers are a little weird here because we have a few members gone, house members in the cabinet now. but that's not really the group that you need to worry about. the group you need to worry about is the house freedom caucus. it's not this bigger conservative group, the study committee. you have to worry about the smaller, sizable house freedom caucus, hard core conservative group. it looks right now they're still solidly no, at least everyone we talk to is no on this. those are the ones they have to flip. it's not the republican study committee. >> so m.j., we also heard...

>> all right. joining me right now, cnn national politics reporter m.j. lee has been following this health care bill from the beginning to wherever it stands right now. cnn congressional correspondent sunlen serfaty on capitol hill, and tom low bianco joining us as well. you can't call the vote until the last vote is cast, of course. but what are republican leaders saying about this? then we'll get to what the president is saying now. >> the fluidity reflects the moment on capitol hill right now. the bill is very much in the deal making stage as leadership and the white house clearly are worki...

Moves and the fluidity of all this really does highlight how frantic things are right now for the leadership to find something that they can pass, to make changes that can be made amenable to conservatives and moderates. >> as you're talking about republican leaders and changes they can make, house speaker paul ryan is speaking right now at a national review event. let's listen to him for a second. >> -- that we can make changes that improve the bill, refine the bill. the big pieces are all there. the president, this is where i think he just got off the news, he was meeting with the biggest co...

Amanda, i want to get m.j. lee, a great reporter, on healthcare. when he was meeting with a group of conservative leaders he said everyone is on board, we're making changes, she talked to the freedom caucus, a smaller group of conservatives. the announcement that all the rnc are for it doesn't change our group at all. what does it mean for the bill and getting it to the goal line. >> paul ryan is putting pressure to get it there. and you don't know how every member will vote until you get there. i think the tax credit and the mandates, if they can make headway, great. if they can't, failure wi...

Plans to forge ahead with his original strategy with no intent of making changes, we'll get details on speaker ryan. we have a mega panel standing by, but let's begin with senior white house correspondent jim acosta, tell me what do you anticipate sean spicer will say because if speaker ryan isn't budging and sean spicer has said we're open to ideas, what does he say post cbo score today. >> reporter: i think you are going to hear much of what we heard yesterday from nick mull vae -- mulvaney. they were disagreeing with it stren rously i believe was the word used. they were not on the same pag...