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That led to a power differential with african-americans with three-quarters of a human being when this country was formed and had a civil war to change it and brought it up in 1964 and took another 100 years to change that. look, i do want to know. >> damn. now, i show this to you because not of the genius of the general making points but seeded game for what it is. gates and trumpers want critical race theory to be a fog horn. they don't want more dog whi whistles. this is about the woke left making the white man pay for things. it not what it is. that's the ugly side. let get the truth. join...

Think it's very unlikely. but, again, once you have that challenger in there making points -- and bill weld is a good public speaker. he's got a sharp tongue. he's experienced. two terms winning as governor in massachusetts. other losing races, but he's been out there on the trail. this guy's too liberal to be nominated by the republican party. but he's a good opponent for trump if in fact he runs. >> what happens for never trumpers? for republicans who have foresworn donald trump or who want some other solution but they'd like a republican, they'd like maybe a conservative candidate, what's t...

Although ronald reagan came awfully close to gerald ford in 1976, so it's possible, but i think it's very unlikely. but, again, once you have that challenger in there making points -- and bill weld is a good public speaker. he's got a sharp tongue. he's experienced. two terms winning as governor in massachusetts. other losing races, but he's been out there on the trail. this guy's too liberal to be nominated by the republican party. but he's a good opponent for trump if in fact he runs. >> what happens for never trumpers? for republicans who have foresworn donald trump or who want some other s...

But, again, once you have that challenger in there making points -- and bill weld is a good public speaker. he's got a sharp tongue. he's experienced. two terms winning as governor in massachusetts. other losing races, but he's been out there on the trail. this guy's too liberal to be nominated by the republican party. but he's a good opponent for trump if in fact he runs. >> what happens for never trumpers? for republicans who have foresworn donald trump or who want some other solution but they'd like a republican, they'd like maybe a conservative candidate, what's the best scenario, a bunch ...

Democrats to blink. >> i find china, frankly, in many ways to be far more honorable than crying chuck and nancy. i really do. i think that china is actually much easier to deal with than the opposition party. >> and we begin there with the president headed to the border this hour as both he and the democrats look much more interested in making points, not deals. talks to end the government shutdown have evaporated, that with the president's bye bye, closing the door on the latest attempt to break the border impasse. nancy pelosi calls it a temper tantrum of the president unwilling to make a de...