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What they're saying now is he dealt with the president and all is fine? >> yes, i think that rosenstein, like a lot of figures at the justice department and at the bureau have veered between being just stricken by what they see in the president when they encounter him or meet with him and then trying to find ways to accommodate him or coexist with him. and rosenstein has been in the coexisting mode ever since the sort of survival of this initial rocky patch with the president. >> but rosenstein has also expressed much greater confidence in public in his own position in this circumstance, which...

Expressed much greater confidence in public in his own position in this circumstance, which is consistent with what greg's talking about being knocked back, shocked by what happened early in the administration, but you notice that periodically over last several months he's been making statements. i'm not going to be intimidated by anybody. the justice department's going to do its job. that strikes me as someone who regained his balance and decided that he was going to act in a way he thought was necessary to protect his both reputation and the justice department's reputation, and i think that ...

Days ago. listen and will get your reaction. >> it feels like if i had said, it was a muslim or a mexican or someone black, i feel like they would've supported me a lot much more. leland: this is smollett making it about race and politics. not the gop. >> yeah, look.there is obvious he something wrong with this guy. but having three straight white guys talk about was like to be a person of color, lgbt, is pretty difficult to imagine that we would know. leland: hold on, hold on! is it wrong. >> let me finish, please. leland: let me ask you a question. is it wrong for us to talk about the truth ...

Pr campaign. involved a lot of disinformation. so i think the judge's concern here is whether the government gets a fair trial. and to protect roger stone against himself. any smart attorney would advise him not to be doing what he's doing, mouthing off about his case. she is trying to preserve frankly the integrity of the judicial process. >> let me read a portion of the judge's order. counsel for the parties and the witnesses must refrain from making statements to the media or in public settings that pose a substantial likelied of material prejudice to this case. and i'm recalling roger ston...

These discussions continued to the election, but left open the possibility that they had. >> hmm. okay, kara scannell, thank you very much. so what are the latest implications on the trump tower project? we have someone covering our frontier and also our legal front. so giuliani says trump was involved in the trump tower moscow project for the entirety of his campaign. he's tried to kind of back-pedal from that and saying he's leaving open the possibility of this. but let's just talk about what that would mean. that would mean that he was, as the "new york times" so clearly spells out, wooing ...