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On their failures. in favor of making statements that the nra which was not involved. >> what they're trying to do is cover all bases. i think what they're saying is it's wrong on the part of law enforcement. like i said, with young rollins today, he was not summary that the fbi or law enforcement could have picked up on. the neighbors have said -- >> tucker: it just happened. very quickly, this is the question i wanted to ask. it's a simple question. what specific law are we calling for? >> i think there's many things. they're calling for a raise in the age limit. we have a kid he was 18 or 1...

Intelligence. if i were the white house, i would be pretty concerned that russia was targeting carter page, was targeting papadopoulos, and who knows who else. >> and paul, why wouldn't the white house instead attempt to rebut claims in this memo as opposed to making statements that seem to be completely contrary to what is in the document? >> i think the whole process that's being used here is really objectionable. we're talking about looking at fisa, a secret court that only under extraordinary circumstances issues surveillance warrants involving u.s. citizens. and of course, we're all worri...

Have gone in and obama white house if someone in an fbi background check had people bring these allegations as his ex-wives did. >> this never would have happened. we had a very strict vetting process that would have had detailed interviews with our appointees in addition to the background check. you had an example of two ex-wives making statements to the fbi agents. you also apparently had a police report. the minute that came up, i guarantee you the fbi flagged that for somebody in the white house. so it will be interesting to see what the timeline is here. but when that would have been flag...

Ordered the don mcgahn to fire robert mueller. so when they eventually have an interview and mueller asks him, did you ask don mcgahn to fire me? what does the president then say? >> well, that's why i think the president is in a no-win situation now. we know that whether he's under oath or just speaking to federal investigators not under oath, he has to tell the truth or he's subject to prosecution for making false statements and that's a federal felony. we also know that this president seems to be incapable of making statements that are consistent with what are known facts. he also doesn't k...

Contacts, and also perhaps to keep the prosecutors from getting at his own financial affairs. i think that's why jeff is absolutely right that that sounds like a corrupt, meaning self-interested effort, to terminate an investigation. >> so let's think about how this all goes. robert mueller now knows from his witnesses that the president ordered don mccann to fire robert mueller. when they have an interview and mueller asks him, did you ask him to fire me, what does the president say? >> that's why the president is in a no win situation. whether he is under oath or just speaking to federal inv...