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Here under nonofficial cover. they were here as academics and business people but they were russian spies. that investigation was going on for more than a decade. and the fbi didn't blow their cover because they wanted to follow them around. they wanted to garner as much intelligence on them as possible. so clearly there is some intelligence benefit that we get to monitor these individuals but also a second principal and that is the principle of reciprocity. we know that when we expel two russian spies, the russians are then going to expel a couple of our diplomats. so we know and we can assum...

This justice department. if they make that argument now, it would be muddled. >> one of the arguments they're making today, ryan, is, but he didn't do it. so why does it matter? is there such a thing as a pattern of behavior? how does this all fit together? or is this nothing more than something he thought he might do and then got talked out of it and it doesn't mean anything? >> it's very serious that he didn't just think about doing it but he actually issued the order. to the white house counsel. and then the white house counsel said if you want me to follow through with this, i will resign....

Clearance check had felonies, one included the rape of a child this. person was allowed to work for two more years getting these national security briefings. it also calls into question whether or not people should be working at the white house like jared kushner with an interim security clearance. it's a point that elijah cummings is making today. he's calling on the white house to be as transparent as the defense department saying that they too probably have the same level of fail rate, that these interim security clearances are not something that people should be operating on for a long tim...

Survive. >> daniel: so there's basically four or five every four years. >> anthony: certified by the highest in the land as being at the very top of the top of their professions. mof challenges often include ultra old-school classics, not unlike the one we're making today. poularde en vessie. thick slices of black truffle are slipped under the skin of a chicken from bresse, the rolls royce of chickens. it's then tied, slipped inside a pig's bladder, and steamed in court bouillon until tender. >> daniel: the idea is to concentrate the flavor of truffle inside the bladder. the dish they choose, ...

Are stifling the industry rather than actually helping consumers. so i think that that's, you know, the contrarian thinking with the appointment but director mulvaney has a very full plate as the director of the office of management and budget already. >> steve, you think this is about reform? you think this is about mulvaney coming in and help reform the cfpb? >> i don't think regulations are stifling wall street one darn bit judging by the amount of money they're making today and the law is very -- no, it's not about regulation. it's not about any kind of reform. it's about donald trump's la...