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Value, fundamental values. republicans understand that. that's why they appeal on culture wars. until the democrats made a broad value-based argument, based in the constitution, based in the idea that all men and women are created equal, based on inclusivity, not running away from inclusivity, not running away from diversity, not running away every time someone tells them they're being politically correct in this, wade into this cultural argument because america has fundamentally changed. america is a diverse, multi-cultural democracy. republicans understand that, which is why they're pushing ...

A lot of them were republicans and none of them will be the referees by the mid-terms. >> well, you know, we're having this conversation -- today is james baldwin's birthday, you know, the famous writer, civil rights leader, who fought, was discriminated against, pushed on all kinds of the same moderate leaders that sort of stand on process and stand on these sort of old traditions. he had a great quote, which he said was everything that is faced, it can't be change, but nothing can be changed until it is faced, right? i think democrats have to finally face this idea. democrats make unbelievab...

>> i think you are absolutely right, nicolle. the way i have been thinking about it is like this, right. so republicans are trying to shrink the electorate. there's the obvious political strategy here. they're trying to shrink the electorate. in some ways, you might be crass about it, they're trying to cheat. also, what they're doing is making an argument, an existential claim about the country that the argument around the vote is really about who matters. so it is a question around the character of the country that feeds into january 6th. it feeds into the culture wars that we are fighting ri...