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campaign team, that his claims of election fraud were just lies. >> but they were proposing, that was nuts. >> the mayor was definitely intoxicated. law firms were not comfortable making the arguments that rudy giuliani was making publicly. >> evidence today that former president trump knew he lost, and kept telling lies about it. >> the president accepted that. he said, okay, fine, but what about the others? >> i told them that it was -- it was crazy stuff, and i was doing great, doing service for the country. >> and why the investigation now involves fundraising off claims that wer...

his campaign knows he lost. his administration knows he lost. and nevertheless, he tells the country, i won. >> we have much more evidence to show the american people on this point than we can reasonably show in one hearing. and today, we will begin. >> tonight, new testimony from the very top of trump's own campaign team, that his claims of election fraud were just lies. >> but they were proposing, that was nuts. >> the mayor was definitely intoxicated. law firms were not comfortable making the arguments that rudy giuliani was making publicly. >> evidence today that former president...

of election fraud were just lies. >> what they were proposing, that was nuts. >> the mayor was definitely intoxicated. law firms were not comfortable making the arguments that rudy giuliani was making publicly. >> evidence today that former president trump knew he lost, and kept telling lies about it. >> the president accepted that. he said, okay, fine, but what about the others? >> i told them that it was -- it was crazy stuff, and i was doing great, doing service for the country. >> and why the investigation now involves fundraising off claims that were notably false? >> not only w...

Cannot be a part of what looks like a scheme to present a case for a stolen election to be used later in what would be that. he resigns. >> i think that's all on plan earth. i think in the very narrow context of the case that liz cheney and bennie thompson are making against trump, by republicans who work for trump, it serves a very useful purpose. >> there is a surreal degree of earnest credulity that hung over that thing. the president is a malignant sociopath who is intent on staying in office. every little thing that he says, which is like well, can we check on this? you have doj personnel...

I think in the very narrow context of the case that liz cheney, bennie thompson are making, against trump by republicans who work for trump, it serves a very useful purpose. >> there is a real degree of like, ernest jewelry that hung over that, and part of it. the president is a malignant sociopath, who is intent on staying in office. and every little thing he says, which is like, well, will you check on this? you've got like doj personnel and lawyers running around. we interview the person with a briefcase -- it's all nonsense. this is visible from 1000 miles away! and so, the idea, and i gue...