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Challenge that we face. david's absolutely right that it was more about expanding coverage than containing costs and addressing our current -- the challenge we already had before we started this reform process. i think it's going to be a really difficult and long road to containing health costs. it is our number one challenge. we don't know the solutions yet. we're sort of learning as we go along. it's going to take a long time for those policy choices and the possible solutions to materialize. in the meantime, i think we have to be looking at the easier parts of the budget. >> there are easy ...

Coverage than containing cost and addressing our current, the challenge we already had before we started this reform process. i think it's going to be a really difficult and long road to containing health costs. it is our number one challenge. we don't know the solutions yet. we are sort of learn as we go along, and it's going to take a long time for those policy choices and the possible solutions to materialize. in the meantime, i think we have to be looking at the easier parts of the budget. >> there are easy parts of the budget? >> social security used to be the third rail, but i'm not so s...

You're going to be in a town hall meeting in indiana, are you comfortable telling the people there that if this plan by democrats does not pass that going forward we may be stuck with the status quo? what we have now that most analysts will tell you is not sustainable? is. >> yeah. i'll tell you, jane, what i'm going to tell people in richmond, indiana, and in connorsville and new castle, indiana, is that job one is stop this government takeover of health care with its billions of dollars in taxes and mandates. job two is to immediately work on the kind of step-by-step reforms that'll focus on...