Dozens of defense contractors as russian and chinese hacker continue to try to steal sensitive data from the u.s. defense industrial base. that sounds very worrisome. you say you have been looking into that and warning about it, are we prepared for such a thing? >> the defense industrial base. i'm a director of a defense contractor, the defense industrial base, financial services are very very sophisticated when it comes to their own cyber defenses. attempts at theft of intellectual property. in the defense industry, elsewhere is not new. what we should be looking out for in particular is some...