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>> he been baby-sitting one of his boys at his ex-wife's house when this incident actually occurred. >> you would have the pin him down on that, sure he proof of it, correct? >> yes. >> another deputy had the recorder on. >> she and i sort of committed to each other to be co-coaches, to get through both of our divorces. >> but knapp did not stop there. oh, no, he seemed eager to tell them about carol's ex-husband. >> well, it's just my intuitive take, the guy comes off to me as a very sneaky, man ipulative man. >> so by the time steve arrived the deputies were suspicious. they asked him to the...

Tibe a new time for people to feel safe to talk about this stuff. >> i agree with you. and it's stunning for those of us not in the hollywood sphere and learning about 30 years of these stories and stars coming outs and saying they are shocked. i mean, even the legendary merrill streep, she said she had no idea. if this was such an open secret, how can they be shocked? >> he was a man ipulative man. she's a smart guy. you can see that quickly meeting with him and talking with him, i think. i don't know how so many people didn't know. i really don't. but i'm suspecting that he did a good job, j...